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Michael Vick getting out of jail early

February 26th 2009 23:29
Somehow life just isn't fair. After being pleading guilty to bankrolling a dog fighting operation and being sentenced to 23 months in prison, former Atlanta Falcon quarterback Michael Vick is being released from the slammer because of over crowding at the half way house where he was scheduled to finish his sentence.

Rather than being in a jail, Vick will be allowed to return home, serve the final months of his sentence wearing an electronic monitoring device and permitted to leave his residence for activities approved by his probation officer.

Michel Vick in the 2006 Pro Bowl
Vick in the 2006 Pro Bowl
This brings up one question among NFL fans. When and were will he play ball again? Vick has already stated that he wants to return to professional football following his July release. However, Commissioner Roger Goodell stands in his way because Goodell suspended Vick without pay and has said he will review his status following all legal proceedings. Further, the Falcons have stated they will try and trade Vick's contract rights to another team. Another hurdle facing Vick is the fact that several teams have no interest in him because of possible backlash.


So, where WILL VIck play? Dallas is a clusterf*** parading as a football team. It seems appropriate for him play there. On the other hand, Oakland has a history of renegade players. Wherever he ends up, this story isn't over!


You can read more about Michael Vick here or here.

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Comment by Randy Inman

February 27th 2009 00:01
It almost HAS to be Oakland or Dallas.

Comment by James Rickard

February 27th 2009 00:54
I said that in jest but, the more I think about it, the more it's ringing true!!!

Comment by S.L.

February 27th 2009 10:14
I can remember when "sports heroes" were expected to behave themselves off the field. Michael Vick, like so many other star athletes has wrecked his career and may not be able to get it going again. Time will tell, James.

Comment by James Rickard

February 27th 2009 13:51
It's going to be an interesting story as it unfolds. I must be too much of a country boy dog lover because I cant get past this.

Comment by James Rickard

February 27th 2009 13:51
It's going to be an interesting story as it unfolds. I must be too much of a country boy dog lover because I cant get past this.

Comment by S.L.

February 27th 2009 15:01
I can't either, James. He's getting off too easy for the brutality he allowed (and committed, too). I wouldn't let a jerk like him within half a mile of my dogs!

Comment by jesse-podoll

February 27th 2009 15:33
Just playing Devil's Advocate here for a second - but hasn't he served his time? Is he not allowed to continue his life?

Does (or can) he come out of prison rehabilitated? Isn't that the point of going to jail? To rehabilitate, to change, to be a better person?

Vick's sentence was 23 months. It's up in July. The halfway house he was supposed to go to to finish his sentence (the same right given to EVERY OTHER PRISIONER for like charges) was full. Full with other crimnals that are probably slightly more of a risk then Vick. With all the eyes/cameras/reporters on Vick, he's not even going to be able to blink without it being reported - whereas if someone in that halfway house still had bad intentions - they might be able to sneak off from a house arrest situation.

In all, I completly despise what Vick has done. But he's paid his time. The time that was sentenced to him by our judicial system for committing the crimes. Last I checked - no where in the sentencing did it say that after he had served his time that he could no longer continue with his life.

Especially considering he plays in the NFL... let's not pretend it's known for it's pristine player image. In fact, in "Pros and Cons, The Criminals That Play in the NFL", authors Jeff Benedict and Don Yeager, estimate that of the 1996/97 NFL players, 21% competed with criminal records, up to and including allegations of rape and assault. And that was 10 years ago - imagine that number today... Pacman, Tank, Lynch, any Bengal...

If I have to sum it up - I'd use this old addage: "Don't hate the player - hate the game". (Read "game" as either the NFL, or the US Judicial system, because obviously for some - their punishment wasn't enough).

Comment by S.L.

February 27th 2009 16:02
Hi Jesse-podoll. He's welcome to get on with his life as far as I'm concerned. But I still wouldn't allow him near my dogs. Maybe he'll never get the urge to torture animals again, but why put temptation in front of him? It would be sort of like hiring an ex-drug addict to run a drug store.

Comment by jesse-podoll

February 27th 2009 17:00
Don't get me wrong - I agree he should never be allowed to own - or go near - a dog again.

But I fail to see the correlation of your analogy - he's not returning to anything having to do with dogs. IE - he's not being hired as the owner of a dog grooming salon.

In fact, I recall that part of his sentence (at least while he's on probation after he gets out - I'm not sure about life time ban) is he is not allowed to own a dog, or go to places where dogs are prevalent - ie: dog parks, pet stores, etc. Though I can't find anything that backs that up.

I guess it just hits home a little - as someone very close to me - a drafted Vietnam vet - an ex-drug addict - an ex-alcoholic - who has been convicted and served jail time - has owned their own tavern for going on 30 years now and has been nothing short of a pillar of the community and even serves on the City Council. If 30 years ago, someone would have said 'we don't want to grant you a business/liquor license because we don't want to put that temptation in front of you" - where might this person be today?

I'm not saying he should be allowed near dogs - I'm just failing to see how the NFL can punish him above and beyond the United States can... I understand all the PR and public outcry concerns that a team or even the league would take over letting him back in - but he's done - he's served his time, right? I wouldn't be surprised if he turns this around and is able to sue the NFL if they won't reinstate him.

Comment by S.L.

February 27th 2009 17:20
Feelings were running high about his crimes, jesse-podoll, and the NFL might have some concerns about being boycotted. Perhaps by the time his sentence is fully completed, people will have had time to calm down. I'm glad your friend has done so well! I know people, too, who have risen above a bad past and made something good of their lives. It does happen, thank God. Maybe Vick will be one of those success stories. For his sake, I pray he does well.

Comment by jesse-podoll

February 27th 2009 17:40
I agree this situation is a PR nightmare from the NFL standpoint. However, legally - I don't see how they can do anything more to him.

Though it may seem like I am sticking up for Vick - I'm really sticking up for the US Judicial system. I believe that Vick has been judged, found guilty, sentenced, and paid for his crimes - I don't believe that the NFL should be able to punish him above and beyond what the United States of America already has. By allowing the NFL to punish him again - it is basically saying that the NFL has more power then the United States, right?

Suspended him - sure. Ban him from ever returning - no.

Comment by S.L.

February 27th 2009 17:51
There is something of a precedent, jesse-podoll. Remember when the baseball authorities banned Pete Rose for gambling? Sports figures who have embarrassed their executives by their personal behavior have gotten in trouble from "Shoeless Joe" to "Mike Tyson." Double Jeopardy laws don't apply to the business world like they do to the legal system.

Comment by jesse-podoll

February 27th 2009 18:22
Apples to oranges.

Pete Rose - was busted for crimes directly involving the sport that he played in. He was never tried on the Federal level for that crime - nor did he serve jail time for the offense. (Though he later served jail time for tax evasion)

Shoeless Joe (I apologize in advance for "going off" on this one - but I believe 100% that Shoeless Joe was innocent, you could call this my "pet peeve")- but again, busted for something directly related to the sport he played in.
Not to mention Jackson always proclaimed his innocence and in recent years it appears more and more that that was true. For instance, Jackson initially refused to take a payment of $5,000, only to have Lefty Williams toss it on the floor of his hotel room. Jackson then tried to tell White Sox owner Charles Comiskey about the fix, but Comiskey refused to meet with him. Also, before Jackson's grand jury testimony, team attorney Alfred Austrian coached Jackson's testimony in a manner that would be considered highly unethical even by the standards of the time, and would probably be considered criminal by today's standards. For instance, Austrian got Jackson to admit a role in the fix by pouring a large amount of whiskey down Jackson's throat. He also got the nearly illiterate Jackson to sign a waiver of immunity. Years later, the other seven players implicated in the scandal confirmed that Jackson was never at any of the meetings. Williams, for example, said that they only mentioned Jackson's name to give their plot more credibility. Add on top of that his stats in the 1919 series - and you see my point. And he was aquitted in 1921 of all charges and any wrong doing...

Mike Tyson - This is close to the Vick situation. He was sentenced, served his time, and was allowed to box again. If anything - this goes to prove my point that Vick should be reinstated with no further punishment from the NFL. Also - State charges - not Federal.

Comment by S.L.

February 27th 2009 18:34
Admittedly, jesse-podoll, my thing is politics, not sports. My point was that famous sports figures have have been in trouble in the past. I didn't mention other sports figures who did themselves damage with the use of steroids (Lyle Alzedo leaps to mind from the past and A-Rod from today. With different results, certainly!)

My whole point was that some celebrities (singers and movie stars) can get away with all kinds of things while sports stars seem to get the brunt of the punishment. Maybe I wasn't clear enough... I should have expanded on the theme, earlier.

Considering the careers and livelihoods involved, you'd think the people who enjoy the limelight would protect it a little more carefully, wouldn't you? Their actions can have a much bigger impact on their futures than "regular folks."

Comment by jesse-podoll

February 27th 2009 18:41
No worries - I just like a good conversation (some would say arguement...). I enjoy the Devil's Advocate role - even if that is not what I truly believe.

I don't intend to be rude or standoffish - so if I'm coming across that way - I'm sorry - not the intent. Just trying to get some good cross-talk going.

Comment by S.L.

February 27th 2009 18:43
Not a problem. I like to argue, too. Come to my blog and let's argue there for awhile! LOL I'll be offline, starting tomorrow for several days, so if you want to argue politics, now's the time!

Comment by Randy Inman

February 27th 2009 21:58
I also think Shoeless Joe was innocent.

Pacman Jones did worse and is playing, his crimes involved people getting shot and shot at. Vick deserves another chance.

Comment by James Rickard

February 28th 2009 02:32
Hmmmm. I think I stirred the pot.

Comment by Anonymous

May 17th 2009 10:02
People have killed people and served less or no time at all!!! So I don't see why people are getting so pissed off about some dogs!!! There was a young boy in Sacramento Ca. who was killed by a drunk police officer!! Guess what that police officer is out already after serving less than a year in jail!!!! Give me a break get a life and let this man make his living!!! He has served his time let it go there are much bigger issue's in life!!!! They were dogs for God's sake people in other country's eat dogs as their meal!! I don't know I just think a human's life if more important than a dogs life!!!
GO VICK!!!

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